唐纳德·特朗普上周表示，作为总统”你只要说它已经解密了就可以解密了怀俄明州共和党参议员约翰·巴拉索不同意这一观点，但这是在乔治·斯特凡诺普洛斯在美国广播公司的“本周”节目中两次就这一问题向他施压之后。"
在周日的一次采访中，巴拉索被斯特凡诺普洛斯问及特朗普对机密材料的处理，特朗普否认有不当行为，正在接受联邦调查。
特朗普上周对福克斯新闻频道的肖恩·哈尼蒂声称，虽然“不同的人看到不同的事情”，但他对这一权力的看法是绝对的:“如果你是美国总统，你可以只说它是解密的。甚至通过思考。”
斯特凡诺普洛斯问巴拉索是否同意。这位参议员说他从未听说过这样的断言，并转而批评司法部的做法法院授权搜查Mar-a-Lago。
巴拉索说，他“以前从未见过这样的事情”，指的是联邦调查局“突袭”特朗普的家，而且这已经“变得政治化了”。
斯特凡诺普洛斯反驳道:“你知道一个总统不能通过思考来解密文件。为什么不能这么说?”
这位参议员还表示，他并不精通总统解密的规则，并希望从DOJ获得关于调查的简报，然后同意了斯特凡诺普洛斯的意见。他说，“我不认为一个总统可以通过这么说，通过思考来解密文件。”
这种观点与外部专家告诉美国广播公司新闻的一致:总统必须在某个地方记录他的解密过程，不管他的过程是什么。
巴拉索在“本周”露面的大部分时间里都在推动乔·拜登总统的外交政策，包括解决美国和伊朗之间2015年核协议的潜在复兴问题。
斯特凡诺普洛斯打开了采访让巴拉索回复杰克·沙利文，拜登的国家安全顾问。沙利文周日也接受了“本周”的采访，并表示核谈判——因此伊朗永远不会有“他们可以威胁世界的武器”——可能会在白宫就妇女和抗议者的待遇向该国施加公众压力的同时生效。
Sen. John Barrasso speaks to media during the weekly Senate Republican Leadership press conference, at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2022.
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"你觉得他的观点有说服力吗，能让你留在伊朗核谈判中吗?"斯特凡诺普洛斯问巴拉索。
“乔治，不要和伊朗做交易，这是一笔好交易……他们继续宣称‘美国去死’我们不能允许他们拥有核武器，”巴拉索说。
斯特凡诺普洛斯还向巴拉索寻求澄清共和党和乌克兰问题。
Stephanopoulos引用了一些共和党人对美国继续援助乌克兰的批评，如俄亥俄州参议院提名人J.D. Vance，他问Barrasso，民主党人警告说，如果他们夺回国会，共和党可能会限制未来的支持，这是否正确。
“不。在众议院和参议院，两党继续支持向乌克兰提供武器，”巴拉索说。
他说，他希望白宫更快地向乌克兰提供武器，并表示“我们应该生产更多的美国能源，以帮助我们的欧洲盟友”和美国消费者，他们正在应对与主要能源供应国俄罗斯冲突的后果。
斯特凡诺普洛斯问巴拉索，正如他问沙利文:“你认为(俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京)的权力是安全的吗?”
“我不确定，”参议院外交关系委员会成员巴拉索说。“他现在在一个深坑里，而且他已经挖好了这个坑。我认为他对这个国家的声明真的很绝望。它没有显示出真正的信心或实力。”
巴拉索说:“外交关系委员会将于本周三举行听证会，讨论我们在制裁(俄罗斯)方面还能做些什么。”。“此外，我们将于周四在参议院举行一次安全简报会，以了解乌克兰当地发生的情况。”
Trump can't 'declassify documents by saying so,' GOP Sen. Barrasso acknowledges when pressed
After Donald Trump suggested last week that as president “you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it,” Republican Wyoming Senator John Barrasso disagreed -- but only after George Stephanopoulos pressed him on the issue twice on ABC’s “This Week.”
During an interview on Sunday, Barrasso was asked by Stephanopoulos about Trump's handling of classified material, which is under federal investigation as Trump denies wrongdoing.
Trump claimed to Fox News' Sean Hannity last week that while "different people see different things," his view of this authority was absolute: "If you’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified. Even by thinking about it."
Stephanopoulos asked if Barrasso agreed. The senator said that he had not heard about such an assertion and pivoted to criticizing the Department of Justice'scourt-authorized search of Mar-a-Lago.
Barrasso said that he had "never seen anything like that before," referring to the FBI "raid" Trump's home, and that it had "become political."
Stephanopoulos pushed back: "You know that a president can't declassify documents by thinking about it. Why can't you say so?"
The senator, who also said that he isn't versed in the rules of presidential declassification and wants to get a briefing from the DOJ on the investigation, then agreed with Stephanopoulos. He said, "I don't think a president can declassify documents by saying so, by thinking about it."
That view lines up with what outside experts have told ABC News: The president must document his declassification process somewhere, whatever his process was.
Barrasso spent much of his "This Week" appearance pushing back on President Joe Biden's foreign policy, including addressing the potential revival of the 2015 nuclear deal between the U.S. and Iran.
Stephanopoulos opened up the interviewby having Barrasso respond to Jake Sullivan, Biden's national security adviser. Sullivan was also interviewed on "This Week" on Sunday and said nuclear negotiations -- so Iran never has a weapon "they can threaten the world with" -- could be effective at the same time the White House was putting public pressure on the country over its treatment of women and protesters.
"Did you find his argument convincing for staying in the Iran nuclear talks?" Stephanopoulos asked Barrasso.
"No deal with Iran, George, is a good deal … They continue to claim 'death to America.' We cannot allow them to have a nuclear weapon," Barrasso said.
Stephanopoulos also sought clarity from Barrasso on the GOP and Ukraine.
Citing criticism of American's continued aid to Ukraine by some Republicans, like Ohio Senate nominee J.D. Vance, Stephanopoulos asked Barrasso if Democrats were right to warn that the GOP may restrict future support if they retake Congress.
"No. There continues to be bipartisan support in the House and in the Senate for weapons to Ukraine," Barrasso said.
He said he wanted the White House to be quicker in providing weapons to Ukraine and said "we ought to be producing more American energy to help our European allies" and American consumers who are dealing with the fallout of the conflict with Russia, a major energy provider.
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Stephanopoulos asked Barrasso, just as he asked Sullivan: "Do you believe that [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's hold on power is secure?"
"I'm not sure," Barrasso, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said. "He is in a deep hole right now and he's dug this hole. And I thought his statement to the country there really was desperate. It didn't show really confidence or strength."
"The Foreign Relations Committee is going to have a hearing this Wednesday on what additional things we can do in terms of sanctions [on Russia]," Barrasso said. "And also we have a secure briefing on Thursday in the Senate to take a look right at what's happening on the ground in Ukraine."
