上周一,联邦调查局官员搜查了前总统唐纳德·特朗普在佛罗里达州棕榈滩的Mar-a-Lago住宅,执行了司法部的法院搜查令后来发现与可能的违规行为有关三个刑事法规。
警方从Mar-a-Lago共查获27个箱子,其中11个装有机密文件,包括绝密信息。
美国广播公司新闻撰稿人、前联邦检察官坎·纳瓦戴(Kan Nawaday)接受了美国广播公司新闻记者菲尔·利波夫(Phil Lipof)的采访,他谈到了搜查令中突出的内容、箱子里的绝密材料以及官员们现在可能在做什么。
PRIME: ABC新闻撰稿人、前联邦检察官Kan Nawaday今晚再次与我们在一起,就所有这一切发表一些见解。Kan,谢谢你能来。我们先看看搜查令。我们都有一份副本。你在搜查令中注意到了什么?
纳瓦达伊:首先,这个巨大的火药桶是这样一个事实,即法官找到了可能的理由相信有违反间谍法的行为。
An aerial view shows Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Fla., Aug. 15, 2022.
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PRIME:这可不是一个小壮举。我们现在讨论的是间谍活动。
纳瓦戴:没错。这意味着他们认为最高机密信息被错误地传递给了未经授权的人。这正是[国家安全局告密者爱德华]斯诺登被指控的法令。
PRIME:好的。所以让我们继续看这张收据,他们说在搜查前总统家时拿走的东西。你可以在顶部看到对罗杰·斯通的特赦,关于法国总统的信息,然后我们看到下面的机密文件,其他的,然后我们有绝密文件,机密文件,更多的绝密文件。谈论一下最高机密,因为,你知道,人们可以随便用这个词,但那是什么意思呢?
纳瓦戴:你完全正确。感觉人们在到处乱说这个词。但实际上非常非常具体。绝密的意思是一种文件或信息,如果它泄露出去,会对我们的国家安全造成异常严重的损害。所以这真的很重要,很敏感。让我印象深刻的是“2A”这个项目,各种各样的TS/SCI文档。
PRIME:那个SCI。
纳瓦达伊:对,SCI的意思是这是绝密的东西,只能而且应该只能在基本上不受数据泄露影响的特定设施内查看。
PRIME:它们叫小艇,对吗?
纳瓦戴:没错。
PRIME:不允许打电话,什么都不允许。这是您查看这些文档的确切位置。
纳瓦达伊:就像你不能把手机带进来,你不会收到任何电子邮件…这就是这种材料的敏感性,他们就在那里。
PRIME:那么他们现在必须做什么?他们是否担心可能看到此内容的人,或者这些材料可能去了哪里?
那瓦达伊:当然。我敢打赌,联邦调查局和国家安全专业人员正在做什么-他们正在查看他们从搜索中获得的一切,并试图找出还有谁可能看到了这份高度敏感的材料。
Former federal prosecutor reveals 'powder keg' in FBI raid on Trump
Last Monday, FBI officials raided former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Palm Beach, Fla., executing a court-ordered search warrant the Department of Justicelater revealed was related to possible violationsof three criminal statutes.
Officers seized a total of 27 boxes from Mar-a-Lago, with 11 containing classified documents -- including top secret information.
ABC News contributor and former federal prosecutor Kan Nawaday spoke with ABC News’ Phil Lipof about what stands out to him in the search warrant, the top secret materials in the boxes and what officials are likely doing now.
PRIME: ABC News contributor and former federal prosecutor Kan Nawaday again with us tonight for some insight on all of this. Kan, thanks for being here. Let's take a look at the search warrant first. We both have a copy of it. What stands out to you in the search warrant?
NAWADAY: First off, the huge big powder keg in this is the fact that the judge found probable cause to believe that there was a violation of the Espionage Act.
PRIME: And that's no small feat. We're talking about espionage here.
NAWADAY: Exactly. What that means is that they think that there was mishandling of top secret information that was transmitted to unauthorized persons. This is the exact same statute that [National Security Agency whistleblower Edward] Snowden was charged with.
PRIME: All right. So let's move on to the receipt here, the things that they say they took in this search of the former president’s home. You can see at the top a grant of clemency for Roger Stone, information on the president of France, then we see as you move down secret documents, miscellaneous, then we have top secret documents, confidential documents, more top secret documents. Talk about top secret for a minute, because, you know, people can throw that term around, but what does that mean?
NAWADAY: And you're exactly right. Feel like people throw that term around. But it's actually very, very specific. What top secret means is a type of document or information that if it gets out there, it can cause exceptionally grave damage to our national security. So it's really important stuff, it's sensitive stuff. And the thing that sticks out to me is item “2A,” various TS/SCI documents.
PRIME: That SCI.
NAWADAY: Right, SCI means this is top secret stuff that can only, and should only, be viewed within a certain facility that's basically protected from data leaks.
PRIME: They're called skiffs, right?
NAWADAY: Exactly.
PRIME: No phones allowed, nothing. This is where you view these documents exactly.
NAWADAY: Like you cannot take your phone in, you're not going to get any emails…that's how sensitive this material is, and they have it there.
NAWADAY: Absolutely. My money's on what the FBI, and national security professionals are doing right now -- they're looking through everything they've gotten from the search and they're trying to figure out who else may have seen this highly sensitive material.