华盛顿-众议院委员会成员周日表示,周四的黄金时间听证会将提供迄今为止最令人信服的证据,证明时任总统唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)在1月6日起义当天“玩忽职守”,新的证人详细说明了他未能阻止愤怒的暴徒冲击国会大厦。
“这将让人们大开眼界,”伊利诺伊州共和党众议员亚当·金辛格(Adam Kinzinger)说。调查骚乱的众议院委员会成员,将帮助领导周四与弗吉尼亚州民主党众议员伊莱恩·卢里亚的会议。
一年之后调查众议院1月6日的小组正在寻求结束可能是最后一次听证会,尽管其调查仍在继续升温。
该委员会表示,每天都会继续收到新的证据,并且不排除举行额外的听证会或采访一群与总统关系密切的人。史蒂夫·班农就是这样一个人物,他因拒绝服从众议院委员会的传票而被指控藐视国会,本周开始接受审判。
该委员会上周还向特勤局发出特别传票,要求其在2021年1月5日和1月6日的周二之前提供文本,此前关于这些文本是否被删除的报道相互矛盾。
但小组成员表示,周四的听证会将是迄今为止最具体的一次,它列出并拼凑了此前已知的细节,说明特朗普的行动如何与他制止1月6日骚乱的宪法法律责任相冲突。与一般没有义务采取行动阻止犯罪的公众不同,宪法要求总统“注意法律的忠实执行”。
“总司令是宪法中唯一明确规定其职责是确保法律得到忠实执行的人,”卢里亚说。“我认为这是一种失职。(特朗普)没有行动。他有责任采取行动。”
自6月9日首次亮相以来,周四的听证会将是黄金时段的第一次,估计有2000万人观看了这场听证会。
卢里亚说,听证会将突出来自白宫法律顾问帕特·西波尔隆和其他证人的额外证词,“他们将为1月6日这一关键时刻的事件增加许多价值和信息。”她列举了特朗普那天三个多小时的无所作为,以及当天下午的一条推文,批评副总统迈克·彭斯缺乏勇气在2020年总统大选中与民主党人乔·拜登(Joe Biden)竞争,这可能会助长暴徒的情绪。
“在这段时间里,从他离开椭圆广场的舞台,回到白宫,真正坐在白宫的餐厅里,他的顾问不断敦促他采取行动,采取更多的行动,我们将几乎每分钟都经历一遍,”卢里亚说。
听证会是在该委员会的关键时刻举行的,该委员会正忙于总结调查结果,以便在今年秋天提交最终报告。小组成员说,委员会原本预计在这一点上以最终听证会结束大部分调查,但现在正在考虑其他采访和听证会的可能选择。
“这项调查正在进行中,”加州民主党众议员佐伊·洛夫格伦说,“一系列听证会将于本周四结束这一事实并不意味着我们的调查已经结束。它非常活跃,新的证人不断出现,更多的信息不断涌现。”
例如,该委员会上周采取了罕见的措施,向行政部门特勤局发出传票。据两名知情人士透露,此前它收到了国土安全部监管机构的一份闭门简报,称特勤局已删除了1月6日左右的短信。
这一发现提出了证据丢失的惊人可能性,这些证据可能会进一步揭示特朗普在叛乱期间的行为,特别是在早些时候他试图加入国会大厦的支持者时与安全人员发生冲突的证词之后。
“这就是我们必须要弄清楚的,”卢里亚说,他指的是可能丢失的文本。“这些短信在哪里?他们能恢复吗?我们已经传唤了他们,因为他们是我们需要给委员会看的法律记录。”
卢里亚在美国有线电视新闻网的“国情咨文”中发表了讲话,洛夫格伦在美国广播公司的“本周”中发表了讲话,金辛格在哥伦比亚广播公司的“面向全国”中发表了讲话。
Panel: Hearing to show Trump's Jan. 6 'dereliction of duty'
WASHINGTON --A House committee’s prime-time hearing Thursday will offer the most compelling evidence yet of then-President Donald Trump’s “dereliction of duty” on the day of the Jan. 6 insurrection, with new witnesses detailing his failure to stem an angry mob storming the Capitol, committee members said Sunday.
“This is going to open people’s eyes in a big way,” said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., a member of the House committee investigating the riot who will help lead Thursday's session with Rep. Elaine Luria, D-Va. ”The president didn’t do anything."
After a year-longinvestigation, the House Jan. 6 panel is seeking to wrap up what may be its last hearing, even as its probe continues to heat up.
The committee says it continues to receive fresh evidence each day and isn’t ruling out additional hearings or interviews with a bevy of additional people close to the president. One such figure is Steve Bannon, whose trial begins this week on criminal contempt of Congress charges for refusing to comply with the House committee's subpoena.
The committee also issued an extraordinary subpoena last week to the Secret Service to produce texts by Tuesday from Jan. 5 and Jan. 6, 2021, following conflicting reports about whether they were deleted.
But panel members say Thursday's hearing will be the most specific to date in laying out and weaving together previously known details on how Trump's actions were at odds with his constitutional legal duty to stop the Jan. 6 riot. Unlike members of the public who generally have no duty to take action to prevent a crime, the Constitution requires a president to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.”
“The commander in chief is the only person in the Constitution whose duty is explicitly laid out to ensure that the laws are faithfully executed,” Luria said. “I look at it as a dereliction of duty. (Trump) didn’t act. He had a duty to act.”
Thursday’s hearing will be the first in the prime-time slot since the June 9 debut that was viewed by an estimated 20 million people.
Luria said the hearing will highlight additional testimony from White House counsel Pat Cipollone and other witnesses, not yet seen before, “who will add a lot of value and information to the events of that critical time on January 6." She cited Trump's inaction that day for more than three hours, along with a tweet that afternoon criticizing Vice President Mike Pence for lacking courage to contest Democrat Joe Biden's win in the 2020 presidential election that may have served to egg on the mob.
“We will go through pretty much minute by minute during that time frame, from the time he left the stage at the Ellipse, came back to the White House, and really sat in the White House, in the dining room, with his advisers urging him continuously to take action, to take more action,” Luria said.
The hearing comes at a critical juncture point for the panel, which is racing to wrap up findings for a final report this fall. The committee had originally expected at this point to be concluding much of its investigation with a final hearing but is now considering possible options for additional interviews and hearings, panel members said.
“This investigation is very much ongoing,” said Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif. “The fact that a series of hearings is going to be concluded this Thursday doesn’t mean that our investigation is over. It’s very active, new witnesses are coming forward, additional information is coming forward.”
For instance, the committee took a rare step last week in issuing a subpoena to the Secret Service, an executive branch department. That came after it received a closed briefing from the Homeland Security Department watchdog that the Secret Service had deleted texts from around Jan. 6, according to two people familiar with the matter.
The finding raised the startling prospect of lost evidence that could shed further light on Trump’s actions during the insurrection, particularly after earlier testimony about his confrontation with security as he tried to join supporters at the Capitol.
“That’s what we have to get to the bottom of,” said Luria, regarding possibly missing texts. “Where are these text messages? Can they be recovered? And we have subpoenaed them because they’re legal records that we need to see for the committee.”
Luria spoke on CNN's “State of the Union," Lofgren was on ABC's “This Week,” and Kinzinger appeared on CBS' “Face the Nation.”