共和国总统乔·拜登是十一月的合法赢家选举既然选票已经统计完毕，众议院少数党党鞭史蒂夫·斯卡利斯，R-La。他周日在美国广播公司的“本周”节目中说，但他不会说选举不是“偷来的”

在担任总统仅一个多月之后，尽管全国各地的法院提起了60多起诉讼，几乎全部驳回，但在被美国广播公司驻华盛顿首席记者乔纳森·卡尔(Jonathan Karl)询问后，斯卡利斯没有对选举的合法性做出让步。

“听着，乔·拜登是总统，”斯卡利斯说。“有几个州没有遵守他们的州法律，这就是你所看到的持续不断的争议。”

卡尔就拜登获胜的程度向斯卡利斯提出了质疑。

“我知道乔·拜登是总统。他住在白宫。我问你，他是美国的合法总统吗？你能承认这次选举不是偷来的吗？”卡尔问。“很简单的问题。请直接回答。”

“一旦选民被统计，是的，他就是合法的总统。但是如果你要忽略一个事实，那就是有些州没有遵循他们自己州的立法。斯卡利斯说:“这是核心问题，数百万人仍然不满意，也不想看到这种情况再次发生。

卡尔还询问了斯卡利斯最近在马拉加拜访前总统唐纳德·特朗普的情况，并敦促他是否要求前总统为1月6日美国国会大厦的暴力事件负责。

“你和前总统见面的时候有没有让他承担责任，他承担责任了吗？”卡尔问道。

“好吧，乔纳森，我在佛罗里达州的一些地方做一些筹款活动，最后在马拉加结束。总统伸出手，我们拜访了——自从他离开白宫后，我就没见过他。赶上他真好。他比在白宫的四年轻松多了，”他说。

“但是，等一下，他还没有承担责任——你听到凯文·麦卡锡说——你同意麦卡锡在那里说的，总统必须承担责任——事实要求他对1月6日发生的事情承担责任吗？”卡尔追问。

斯卡利斯拒绝明确表示特朗普是否应该接受任何指责。

“我写了一篇《华尔街日报》的社论，我认为1月6日的责任在哪里，”斯卡利斯说。“肯定有很多可指责的，但归根结底，1月6日在国会大厦的人，他们需要被追究责任。事实上，已经有180多人被捕。”

“特朗普总统谴责了所发生的一切。我认为每个人都应该含糊其辞地谴责发生的事情，不仅是在1月6日，而且是在夏天，他们烧毁城市，枪杀警察，在街上打人，”他补充说。

卡尔还在重新开放学校和使用额外的冠状病毒救助基金方面推动了斯卡利斯的立场。

斯卡利斯说:“但如果你看看优先考虑的应该是什么——应该是孩子们——事实并非如此，因为现在你可以看到工会已经站出来说他们不想要课堂学习。”“他们今天需要在教室里，科学说他们今天可以在教室里。问题是，华盛顿的一些政客现在是否愿意向教师工会低头？”

拜登的计划遣返学生和另一个人一起上学冠状病毒斯卡利斯告诉卡尔，向州和地方政府提供额外资金的救助计划是不必要的，他指的是以前通过的救助法案中未使用的资金。

卡尔·斯卡利斯(Scalise)强调了他对联邦政府在决定儿童何时应该重返学校方面的作用的看法。

“国会议员，白宫没有要求各州对此采取任何措施。他们已经发布了疾病预防控制中心的指南。你是在建议总统应该有效地命令当地学区重新开放吗？”卡尔问道。

斯卡利斯说:“是的，我非常同意教育应该在当地的学校系统中进行。”。“但是什么珍·普萨基刚才说的话我认为这是最大的担忧。也就是说，他们说他们想转移1000多亿美元的新资金，这些资金甚至与学校重新开放没有关系，”他补充说，回应白宫新闻秘书在早些时候接受卡尔采访时说，政府没有计划将额外的冠状病毒救济资金与学校重新开放联系起来。

他补充说:“让我们把资金作为目标，但华盛顿应该向学校发放1000多亿美元的新资金，甚至不要求他们重新开放——这是对那些要求他们重返校园的孩子的侮辱。”

最近的昆尼皮亚克民意测验发现68%的受访美国人表示支持拜登的1.9万亿美元救助计划。卡尔向斯卡利斯施压，要求国会共和党抵制通过另一个方案。

“拜登可能在国会中没有多少共和党人。但无论如何，根据民意调查，他必须得到全国许多共和党人的支持，支持他正在努力做的事情，”卡尔说。

斯卡利斯告诉卡尔，如果美国人知道未用美元救助的程度，他们可能会做出不同的回答。

“好吧，乔恩，你不必是一个好的华盛顿民意测验专家，你可以问这样一个问题，‘嘿，你想让联邦政府给你寄一张3500美元的支票吗？’答案当然是肯定的。如果你说，‘你想让我们从你的孩子那里借钱吗？’因为这就是问题所在，我认为他们的答案可能会有很大不同。

“我们将通过1.9万亿美元的额外支出来拯救失败的州，提高最低工资。那和COVID有什么关系？它应该侧重于帮助那些正在挣扎的家庭和小企业，而不是国会让我们的孩子破产，”他补充说。

Scalise says Biden presidency legitimate, but refuses to say election wasn't 'stolen'

President Joe Biden is the legitimate winner of the November election now that electoral votes have been counted, House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., said Sunday on ABC's "This Week," but he would not say the election wasn't "stolen."

After serving as president for just over a month and despite the fact that over 60 lawsuits were litigated and almost entirely thrown out by courts across the country, Scalise did not concede on the legitimacy of the election after being asked by ABC Chief Washington Correspondent Jonathan Karl.

"Look, Joe Biden is the president," Scalise said. "There were a few states that did not follow their state laws, that's really the dispute that you've seen continue on."

Karl challenged Scalise on the extent of Biden's win.

"I know Joe Biden is the president. He lives at the White House. I asked you, is he the legitimate president of the United States and can you concede that this election was not stolen," Karl asked. "Very simple question. Please just answer it."

"Once the electors are counted, yes he's the legitimate president. But if you're going to ignore the fact that there were states that did not follow their own state legislatively set laws. That's the issue at heart, that millions of people still are not happy with and don't want to see happen again," Scalise said.

Karl also asked Scalise about his recent trip to visit former President Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago and pressed him on whether he asked the former president to take responsibility for the violence at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

"When you met with the former president did you ask him to take him responsibility, did he take responsibility?" Karl asked.

"Well, Jonathan, I was in Florida doing some fundraising throughout a number of parts of Florida -- ended up at Mar-a-Lago. The president reached out, we visited -- I hadn't seen him since he left the White House. It was good to catch up with him. He was a lot more relaxed than his four years in the White House," he said.

"But, wait a minute, he hasn't taken responsibility -- you heard Kevin McCarthy say -- do you agree with what McCarthy said there, that the president must take responsibility -- the facts demand he take responsibility for what happened on January 6th?" Karl pressed.

Scalise refused to say explicitly whether Trump should accept any of the blame.

"I wrote a Wall Street Journal editorial about where I think the responsibility lies for January 6th," Scalise said. "And surely there's a lot of blame to go around but at the end of the day, the people who were in the Capitol on the 6th of January, they need to be held accountable. In fact, over 180 have already been arrested."

"President Trump has denounced what happened. And I think everybody should have been equivocal in their denouncing of what happened, not only on Jan. 6, but during the summer when they were burning down cities, shooting cops, beating people in the streets," he added.

Karl also pushed Scalise on his stance on reopening schools and using additional coronavirus relief funds to do so.

"But if you look at what the priority should be -- it should be the children -- and that's not the case because right now you can see as the unions have stepped up and said that they don't want in-classroom learning," Scalise said. "They need to be in the classroom today, the science says they can be in the classroom today. The question is, is the will there for some politicians in Washington who are bowing to the teachers unions right now?"

Biden's plan to return students to school with another coronavirus relief package -- which would provide additional money to state and local governments -- is unnecessary, Scalise told Karl, pointing to unused funds from previously passed relief bills.

Karl pushed Scalise on his view of the federal government's role when it comes to making a decision about when children should return to schools.

"Congressman, the White House is not mandating that the states do anything on this. They have issued guidance from the CDC. Are you suggesting that the president should be effectively ordering local school districts to reopen?" Karl asked.

"Right, I strongly agree that education should be run at the local school system," Scalise said. "But what what Jen Psaki just said is, I think, the biggest concern. That is, they're saying they want to pass over $100 billion of new money that's not even tied to schools reopening," he added, responding to the White House press secretary who said in an earlier interview with Karl that the administration had no plans to tie additional coronavirus relief funding to reopening schools.

"Let's target the money, but this idea that Washington should be giving out $100-plus billion of new money to school and not even requiring them to reopen -- that's an insult to those children who are demanding they go back to school," he added.

A recent Quinnipiac poll found that 68% of Americans polled said that they support Biden's $1.9 trillion relief package. Karl pressed Scalise on the congressional GOP's resistance to passing another package.

"Biden may not have many -- any -- Republicans in Congress on board. But he must, according to the polling anyway, have a lot of Republicans across the country in favor of what he's trying to do," Karl said.

Scalise told Karl that if Americans knew the extent of unspent dollars in relief, they may answer differently.

"Well Jon, you don't have to be a good pollster from Washington ask the question, 'Hey would you like the federal government to send you a $3,500 check?' Of course the answer is going to be yes. If you said, 'Do you want us to borrow that money from your children?' because that's what this is, I think their answer might be a lot (different)," Scalise said.

"And we're going to pass $1.9 trillion of additional spending to bail out failed states, to raise the minimum wage. What does that have to do with COVID? It should be focused on helping families and small businesses who are struggling, not bankrupting our children by Congress," he added.

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