共和党必须回到“政策和理念”上来，远离阴谋论，比如那些关于选举弗吉尼亚州共和党众议员丹佛里格曼在接受美国广播公司采访时说“发电站政治”播客。

里格曼是第一批公开接受乔·拜登为当选总统的共和党人之一，他告诉美国广播公司首席新闻记者乔纳森·卡尔和政治总监里克·克莱因对基地的恐惧阻止其他当选官员也这么做。

“为什么我们听到的最强烈的声音正在出来，要求或呼吁总统做正确的事情——有最强烈的共和党声音——要么是离开国会的人，要么是已经离开国会的人?”卡尔问道。

“是的，我认为是恐惧，”里格曼说。“但现在，我认为是对选民和基础的恐惧，也许是这几个点可能会让他输掉一场初选，不能让他们连任，或者可能有人会在推特上说他们的坏话。”

里格曼在弗吉尼亚州第五国会选区的共和党初选中输给了进一步右倾的当选众议员鲍勃·古德(Bob Good)，他强调了特朗普竞选团队最近推翻选举结果的法律企图。代表总统或为总统辩护的律师，包括鲁迪·朱利安尼和西德尼·鲍威尔，提出了关于投票机和与外国关系等毫无根据的阴谋论。

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2020年11月19日，在华盛顿的共和党全国委员会总部，鲁迪·朱利安尼(Rudy Giuliani)和西德尼·鲍威尔(Sidney Powell)向媒体讲述与2020年选举有关的各种诉讼时，他指着一张地图。

“但现在，随着我们看到的不可思议的阴谋论，以及刚刚发生在西德尼·鲍威尔和鲁迪·朱利安尼身上的事情，以及我们看到的一些事情，我几乎发现——这将在某些方面帮助你作为一个共和党人，基于诚信，基于政策，在明显荒谬的时候说一些荒谬的话，”他说。

里格曼说，他预计这种理论将在未来几周内在法院和公众舆论中消失，但他补充说，他最终担心围绕选举的阴谋可能会继续造成分裂。

“我要告诉你，这个理论将会彻底瓦解。它要碎裂了。但我担心的是，该理论的分裂只会导致更多的分裂，”里格曼说。“其中一些社交媒体平台，如Parler、Gabb或Batsuit，现在你将在其中一些领域开展激进运动。”

“老实说，许多这样的平台正在开放，因为我们在推特和脸书上审查其中一些更疯狂的部分时遇到了问题。他们不想那样。问题是，在这些平台上，你可以很快将精神错乱货币化，”他补充道。

里格曼的新书《大脚》...《很复杂》研究了围绕大脚怪的阴谋，但也让他开始研究其他阴谋论及其传播。

“好吧，那么我认为这是一个关键点，也是你在书中提出的一个点，你不能真的与阴谋论争论。你不能给它带来理性的理性。这有点像抓住不放。你认为共和党的情况如何?”克莱恩说。

里格曼说，这种阴谋必须“在完全真诚和明确的层面上”予以驳斥。

“我真的很害怕，伙计们。我真的很害怕，”他说。“我无法想象任何人会抓住任何这些理论和任何类型的方式。就像共和党与西德尼·鲍威尔的新闻发布会一样，这必须在完全真诚和明确的层面上予以驳斥。这太疯狂了。这太疯狂了。我们现在必须防患于未然。老实说，我认为未来两年内不会发生这种情况。”

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2020年11月17日，国会大厦，众议院少数党领袖凯文·麦卡锡在众议院共和党会议领导人选举后对记者说。

“这就是我所担心的，是文化、思想或神话的武器化，因为你认为那是通过非人化他人而实现的。这是非常危险的，”他补充说。

他说，不要否认或相信阴谋的候选人不应该被允许在国会中占有一席之地。

“作为一个个人，我认为有三件事是第一位的，他们在这一点上对此一无所知。经过这么长时间，他们对此一无所知，”他说。“第二，他们不相信，但他们在迎合人们，让他们真正当选，筹集资金或与他们认为掌权的某些人保持联系。或者第三，他们真的相信。对我来说，这三种情况都使你没有资格成为一名候选人或为这个伟大国家服务的人。”

“如果你不知道那些被用来非人化的东西——无论是反犹太人的行为，白人至上主义——如果你不知道这些，你就不应该在办公室。如果你迎合它，你不应该在办公室。如果你相信，你绝对不应该在办公室，”他补充道。

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2020年9月30日，众议员丹佛·里格曼在雷伯恩大厅举行了一次关于中国特遣部队报告的新闻发布会。

卡尔问里格曼，他认为众议院少数党领袖众议员凯文·麦卡锡应该做些什么来应对这种情况，因为至少有两名即将入学的新生表示支持卡农阴谋论。

里格曼说:“伙计们，只有两支队伍。“只有共和党人和民主党人。如果你不是那个部落的一员，你就完了。对吗?这就是你现在看到的，麦卡锡必须把这个会议团结在一起，这个会议有说，聪明，疯狂和愚蠢的混合。但是——但是如果你要迎合这种东西，它最终会咬你的屁股。”

GOP has to 'get back to policies and ideas': Rep. Denver Riggleman

The Republican Party has to move back toward "policies and ideas" and away from conspiracy theories like those about theelection, outgoing Rep. Denver Riggleman, R- Va., said on ABC News'"Powerhouse Politics"podcast.

Riggleman was one of the first Republicans to publicly accept Joe Biden as the president-elect and told ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl and Political Director Rick Klein thatfear of the basewas keeping other elected officials from doing the same.

"Why is it that the strongest voices that we have heard are coming out, demanding or calling on the president to do the right thing -- have the strongest Republican voices -- are either people that are leaving Congress or who have already left Congress?" Karl asked.

"Yeah, I think it's fear," Riggleman said. "But right now, I think it's fear of the electorate and the base and maybe those few points that could cost him a primary, not get them reelected or maybe somebody is going to say something mean about them on Twitter."

Riggleman, who lost the Republican primary in Virginia's 5th Congressional District to further right-leaning Rep.-elect Bob Good, highlighted recent legal attempts by the Trump campaign to overturn election results. Lawyers representing or defending the president, including Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, have presented baseless conspiracy theories about voting machines and connections with foreign nations, among others.

"But right now, with the incredible conspiracy theories that we're seeing and what just happened with Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani and some of the things we're seeing, I almost find it -- that it would help you as a Republican in some respects based on integrity, based on policy, to say something ridiculous when it obviously is," he said.

While Riggleman said he expects such theories to dissolve in the courts and in public opinion over the next few weeks, he added that he ultimately fears the conspiracies surrounding the election could continue to create fractionalization.

"I'm going to tell you there's going to be a complete dissolution of this theory. It is going to fragment. But my worry is, is that fragmentation of that theory is just going to cause more fractionalization," Riggleman said. "And some of these social media platforms like Parler or Gabb or Batsuit, and now you're going to have a radicalization movement in some of these areas."

"Let's be honest, a lot of these platforms are opening up because we have issues with Twitter and Facebook censoring some of the crazier parts of this. And they don't want that. And the thing is, you can monetize insanity pretty quickly on some of these platforms," he added.

Riggleman's new book "Bigfoot...It's Complicated" examines conspiracies surrounding Bigfoot, but has opened him to examining other conspiracy theories and their spread, as well.

"Well, then I think it's a critical point and a point you make in your book, that you can't really argue with conspiracy theories. You can't bring reasoned rationality to it. It's kind of take and hold. Where do you see things going in the Republican Party?" Klein said.

Riggleman said such conspiracies had to be refuted "on a level that's just completely sincere and unequivocal."

"That really frightens me, guys. It really frightens me," he said. "I can't imagine that anybody would grab on to any of these theories and any type of way. And just like that press conference with Sidney Powell that the GOP had, that has to be refuted on a level that's just completely sincere and unequivocal. This is crazy. This is nuts. We've got to nip it in the bud right now. And I just don't see that happening in the next two years, honestly."

"That's what I worry about, is the weaponization of culture, ideas or myth, because you think that's true by dehumanizing others. And that is incredibly dangerous," he added.

He said candidates who entertain, don't disavow or believe conspiracies should not be allowed a place in Congress.

"There's three things I would look at as an individual that believes -- it's number one, they're ignorant of it at this point. After all this time, they're so ignorant of it," he said. "Number two, they don't believe it, but they're pandering to people to actually get elected, to fundraise or to stay in the know with certain people that they believe are in power. Or number three, they actually believe it. And all three of those -- to me -- all three of those disqualify you to be a candidate or somebody who serves this great country."

"If you're ignorant of the very things that are being used to dehumanize -- whether it's anti-Semitic behavior, white supremacy -- if you're ignorant of that, you shouldn't be in office. If you are pandering to it, you shouldn't be in office. If you believe it, you definitely shouldn't be in office," he added.

Karl asked Riggleman what he thought House Minority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy should do to approach the situation, as at least two incoming freshmen have expressed support for the QAnon conspiracy theory.

"There's only two teams, guys," Riggleman said. "There's only Republicans and Democrats. And if you're not part of that tribe, you're going to be screwed. Right? And that's what you're seeing right now, is McCarthy has to keep together this conference that has a mix of say, brilliant, crazy and dumb. But -- but if you're going to pander to this kind of stuff, it will eventually bite you in the rear parts."