唐纳德·特朗普总统美国有线电视新闻网首席媒体记者布莱恩·斯特尔特在接受美国广播公司采访时说，他正在利用自己的总统平台来威胁新闻媒体，宣传“广播宣传”“发电站政治”播客星期三。
“他不想要这个消息。他只想要支持特朗普的意见。斯特尔特告诉美国广播公司首席新闻记者乔纳森·卡尔和政治总监里克·克莱因。“当他在广播中看到新闻时，当他看到民主党人发言时，当他看到新闻主播报道一些令人不快的丑闻时，他确实会大发雷霆。”
斯特尔特的新书《骗局:唐纳德·特朗普、福克斯新闻和危险的真相扭曲》于8月下旬发行。
斯特尔特说，特朗普的行为和与新闻的关系与他竞选总统时没有太大不同。
“这是我们在2015年和2016年看到的操纵裁判的版本...他抱怨福克斯的报道，但现在更令人不安，因为他是总统，他正在利用他的总统平台来威胁新闻媒体，”他说。
斯特尔特的书讲述了总统与媒体的关系，主要是与福克斯新闻的关系，以及这种关系如何影响他在白宫的时间。
肖恩·雷福德/盖蒂影像公司
2020年9月8日，美国总统唐纳德·特朗普在北卡罗来纳州温斯顿塞勒姆的竞选集会上向人群发表讲话
卡尔问，如果节目背后的意见主播和记者在未来到达十字路口，网络会是什么样子。
“嗯，我认为福克斯有垄断地位...从这个角度来看，我认为福克斯有巨大的力量，但也有一种害怕观众的感觉，”斯特尔特说。“我有一位长期的评论员对我说，‘观众变得激进了’，一位资深的工作人员说，‘我觉得福克斯被观众挟持了。’这正是错误的态度，错误的方法。你不应该害怕你的观众，你应该为你的观众服务，为他们提供真相。"
特朗普与其他新闻网络的关系更为艰难:他经常指责CNN报道“虚假新闻”，而尼克将MSNBC命名为“MSDNC”，并指责该网络具有极端的党派偏见。
“我想知道你是否能谈谈总统与有线新闻的关系，”克莱因问道。“总统是如何消费新闻的，以及这如何影响他后来与另一方媒体的互动?”
斯特尔特说，总统在推特上看到的和他在电视上看到的一样多。
“我认为他更多的是对在福克斯上听到的，在福克斯上看到的做出反应，然后驱动他的推特，驱动他的一天。斯特尔特说:“这有时会促使我们媒体中的其他人对他在新闻中听到的内容做出反应，结果整个国家都受到了影响，因为我们最终会分心。”。
斯特尔特说，反媒体言论和福克斯新闻的兴起可能来自新闻报道的弱点。
“我认为照镜子并认识到这一点是公平的，”斯特尔特说。“但是，我认为一个更大的因素是，这种长达几十年的试图从权利上说媒体是有偏见的，媒体并没有把你的利益放在心上。媒体只是自由主义，但是破碎了，不可信。90年代的信息主要是关于媒体偏见，现在已经变成总统和他的盟友的信息，说媒体是敌人。”
“我想当你每天都被告知这个消息可能是个骗局时...这有一个真正的破坏性影响，我们甚至还无法衡量，”他说。
克莱因提出猜测，福克斯主播塔克·卡尔森可能有兴趣开始自己的政治生涯。
理查德·德鲁/美联社档案
2107年3月2日，纽约，塔克·卡尔森在福克斯新闻频道的演播室拍照。
“如果我现在正在写这本书，并且正在完成，而不是三个月前，我会包括更多关于塔克的内容。他最近几个月已经离开了，”斯特尔特说。“我也认为塔克对2020年以后的思考方式可能是福克斯公司其他人没有的。当我看塔克的节目时，我听到——你会认为我疯了——我听到2024年的竞选独白。这就是我有时听到他在做的事情，思考什么是后特朗普共和党。”
CNN's Brian Stelter: Trump uses presidential platform to bully news outlets, only wants 'pro-Trump opinion'
President Donald Trumpis using his presidential platform to bully news outlets and promote "propaganda on the air," CNN Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter said on ABC News'"Powerhouse Politics" podcaston Wednesday.
"He doesn't want the news. He only wants the pro-Trump opinion. He only wants the propaganda on the air," Stelter told ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl and Political Director Rick Klein. "And when he sees news on the air, when he sees Democrats speaking, when he sees news anchors reporting on some inconvenient scandal, he does lash out."
Stelter's new book, "Hoax: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth," was released in late August.
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Trump's behavior and relationship with the news isn’t much different than when he was running for president, Stelter said.
"It's a version of working the refs that we saw in 2015 and 2016... where he complains about Fox's coverage, but it's more disturbing now because he is the president and he's using his presidential platform in order to bully news outlets," he said.
Stelter’s book is an account of the president’s relationship with the media, mainly with Fox News, and how it has played into his time in the White House.
President Donald Trump addresses the crowd during a campaign rally in Winston Salem, N.C., Sept. 8, 2020
Karl asked what the network could look like if the opinion anchors and reporters behind the shows ever reach a crossroads in the future.
"Well I think I'm of the view that Fox has a monopoly position... I think Fox has tremendous power from that point of view, but there's also the sense of fearing their audience," Stelter said. "I had a longtime commentator there say to me, 'The audience has been radicalized,' and a veteran staffer say, 'I feel like Fox has been held hostage by its audience.' And that is exactly the wrong attitude, the wrong approach to have. You shouldn't fear your audience, you should serve your audience, serve them the truth."
Trump’s relationship with other news networks is a more difficult one: he often accuses CNN of reporting "fake news," while nicknaming MSNBC "MSDNC," and accusing the network of extreme partisan bias.
"I wonder if you could talk a little bit about the president's relationship with cable news," Klein asked. "How is the president consuming news and how does that play into his interactions later with the press on the other side?"
Stelter said it is just as much about what the president sees on his Twitter feed as what he watches on television.
"I think he's reacting more to what he hears on Fox, sees on Fox, that then drives his Twitter feed, drives his day. It sometimes drives the rest of us in the media to react to what he has heard on the news and the country suffers as a result, because we end up getting distracted," Stelter said.
Stelter said the rise of anti-media rhetoric as well as Fox News could come from a weakness in news coverage.
"I think it's fair to look in the mirror and recognize that," Stelter said. "I think a bigger factor, however, is this decades-long attempt from the right to say the media is biased, the media does not have your interests at heart. The media is just liberal, but broken and can't be trusted. And that message from the 90s is mostly about media bias, has turned into a message from the president and his allies to say the media is the enemy."
"I think when you're told that every day that the news could be a hoax... That has a real damaging effect that we can't even measure yet," he said.
Klein raised speculation that Fox anchor Tucker Carlson could have interest in launching a career in politics of his own.
Tucker Carlson poses for photos in a Fox News Channel studio, in New York, March 2, 2107.
"If I was writing this book now, and I was finishing it now, instead of three months ago, I would have included a lot more about Tucker. He has taken off in recent months," Stelter said. "I also think Tucker is thinking beyond 2020 in a way that maybe nobody else at Fox is. When I watch Tucker’s show, I hear -- you’re going to think I'm crazy -- I hear 2024 campaign monologues. That's what I sometimes hear him doing, thinking about what is the post-Trump GOP."
