共和党众议员弗朗西斯·鲁尼对唐纳德·特朗普总统的代理幕僚长米克·马尔瓦尼上周四关于乌克兰“交换条件”的言论表示严重关切,称他不能简单地“收回”这些言论。
“我不明白你是怎么回到那些清晰的事情上的,”鲁尼,佛罗里达第19区的代表,在美国有线电视新闻网采访星期天。“我会说游戏设置匹配,”他补充道。
马尔瓦尼告诉记者在周四的新闻发布会上,特朗普“绝对”提到了与乌克兰军事援助有关的“与DNC服务器相关的腐败”。“这就是为什么我们拿着钱,”他说。此前,共和党人和白宫坚称,对乌克兰的军事援助被扣留与特朗普敦促乌克兰领导人公开反对其政治对手的调查无关。特朗普和他的共和党支持者坚称“没有交换条件”
马尔瓦尼在新闻发布会上补充道:“回顾2016年发生的事情当然是事情的一部分,[·特朗普担心该国的腐败。”。特朗普对DNC服务器的兴趣源于右翼阴谋新闻网站被广泛揭穿甚至是前总统政府成员。
一名记者就这一点向马尔瓦尼施压,称他的言论表明存在交换条件。马尔瓦尼以明显的沮丧回应道:“我们一直在用外交政策来做这件事。”特朗普官员坚持认为,被外交政策中的政治影响激怒的人应该“忘掉它”
马尔瓦尼后来发表了一份声明,坚称他的话被曲解了,没有任何交换条件。但是鲁尼和其他一些共和党人仍然持怀疑态度。
鲁尼在周日接受美国有线电视新闻网采访时解释道:“问题是,弹劾的规模是否足够大,我想了解更多,我想得到更多的建议。”。他断言,他认为这是一个“非常恶劣的情况”。
鲁尼还抨击特朗普政府更广泛地对待职业外交官和外交核心的方式。这位国会议员曾担任美国驻罗马教廷(梵蒂冈)大使。
“我觉得这太可怕了。我一点都不同意,”他说。“但他们正在减损我们有偿外交服务的工作。这些人在困难的情况下为世界各地服务,”该代表指出。
鲁尼继续为特朗普解除职务的前美国驻乌克兰大使玛丽·约瓦诺维奇辩护。约瓦诺维奇本月在众议院闭门会议上作证,引起了人们对政府外交政策的担忧。
10月17日,白宫代理参谋长米克·马尔瓦尼在华盛顿特区白宫的新闻发布会上发表讲话
鲁尼说:“我只是不喜欢看到我们的外交活动被这些行为打乱,并在某些方面受到破坏。”。
周六,鲁尼向福克斯新闻透露在国会连任两届后,他不打算寻求连任。“我已经做了我来做的事情,我想成为期限的榜样,”他说。这位国会议员还表示,他希望更多的共和党人站出来表达他们对特朗普行为的担忧。
前一天,佛罗里达代表告诉美国有线电视新闻网关于马尔瓦尼的评论,“以前可能是灰色和不清楚的东西现在肯定是清楚的”。
“我绝对不同意该地区的一些人,他们可能会跟随唐纳德·特朗普离开大峡谷边缘,”他在采访中后来补充道。
GOP CONGRESSMAN SAYS HE DOESN'T THINK MICK MULVANEY CAN 'WALK BACK' HIS QUID PRO QUO UKRAINE COMMENTS
Republican Congressman Francis Rooney expressed serious concern about comments made last Thursday by President Donald Trump's acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney in regards to a "quid pro quo" in Ukraine, arguing that he could not simply "walk back" the statements.
"I don't see how you walk back something that's clear," Rooney, who represents Florida's 19th District, said in an interview with CNN on Sunday. "I would say game set match on that," he added.
Mulvaney told reporters during a Thursday press conference that Trump had "absolutely" mentioned "the corruption related to the DNC server" in relation to Ukraine military aid. "That's why we held up the money," he said. Previously, Republicans and the White House had maintained that military aid being withheld to Ukraine had nothing to do with investigations Trump urged Ukrainian leaders to open against his political rivals. Trump and his GOP supporters had insisted there was "no quid pro quo."
"The look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing, and he [Trump] was worried about corruption in that nation," Mulvaney added during the press conference. Trump's interest in the DNC server stems from right-wing conspiracy news sites and has been widely debunked, even by former members of the president's administration.
A journalist pressed Mulvaney on the point, saying that his remarks showed there was a quid pro quo. Mulvaney responded with visible frustration, arguing: "We do that all that time with foreign policy." The Trump official insisted that people angered by political influence in foreign policy should "get over it."
Mulvaney later released a statement insisting that his words had been mischaracterized and that there was no quid pro quo. But Rooney, along with some other Republicans, has remained skeptical.
"The question is, is it of a great enough magnitude to justify impeachment and I want to learn a little more about that, I want to get more counsel," Rooney explained in his Sunday interview with CNN. He asserted that he thinks this is a "very egregious situation."
Rooney also slammed the way the Trump administration has treated career diplomats and the diplomatic core more broadly. The congressman previously served as the U.S. ambassador to the Holy See (the Vatican).
"I think it's terrible. I don't agree with any of it," he said. "But they're derogating the work of our paid foreign service. Those people serve all around the world in difficult circumstances," the representative pointed out.
Rooney went on to defend the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, who Trump had removed from her post. Yovanovitch testified before a closed door session in the House of Representatives this month, raising concerns about the administration's approach to foreign policy.
White House Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney speaks during a press briefing at the White House in Washington, D.C. on October 17
"I just hate to see our diplomatic activities disrupted and in some ways corrupted by these actions," Rooney said.
On Saturday, Rooney revealed to Fox News that after two terms in Congress, he does not plan to seek re-election. "I've done what I came to do, and I want to be a model for term limits," he said. The congressman also said he hopes more Republicans will come forward with their concerns about Trump's actions.
The day before, the Florida representative told CNN that "whatever might have been gray and unclear before is certainly clear right now," in respect to Mulvaney's comments.
"I'm definitely at variance with some of the people in the district who would probably follow Donald Trump off the Grand Canyon rim," he added later in the interview.