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特朗普本周可能会发出传票,1月6日的委员会接下来会做什么?

2022-10-18 09:19  -ABC   - 

在可能是最后一次公开听证会的戏剧性结局中,1月6日的委员会迈出了历史性的一步投票传唤唐纳德·特朗普。

传票可能会在本周正式发出。

周四,该委员会的所有九名成员都批准了迫使前总统就国会大厦袭击事件作证的决议,该委员会认为,这是特朗普推翻2020年大选的诸多努力的暴力高潮。

“他必须对此负责,”委员会主席本尼·汤普森说。,投票前说。"他必须对自己的行为负责。"

几个月来,委员会成员和工作人员一直在讨论他们是否希望特朗普在现场作证。毫无疑问,他们希望他宣誓作证,正如委员会成员在听证会上明确表示的那样。

PHOTO: Rep. Bennie Thompson, Chair of the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol, departs during a break in a hearing, Oct. 13, 2022, in Washington.

Rep. Bennie Thompson, Chair of the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol, departs during a break in a hearing, Oct. 13, 2022, in Washington.

Jabin Botsford/Pool/Getty Images

一些成员不愿给特朗普一个现场舞台,而其他人则认为这对他们的调查有利,因为他们可以在宣誓后质疑他。委员会成员似乎更愿意让他现场直播。

据熟悉特朗普想法的消息人士透露,特朗普告诉顾问,他欢迎现场亮相,但尚未公开表示他是否会合作。

众议员亚当·金辛格(Adam Kinzinger)周日表示,如果特朗普回应该委员会的传票,他将需要与特朗普进行谈判。

“我认为这将是一场谈判,”金辛格说。,委员会成员,告诉美国广播公司“本周”主播乔治·斯特凡诺普洛斯。“只有当我们确定总统是否试图进入现场与我们交谈时,我才会回答这个问题。”

“他明确表示他没有什么要隐瞒的,这是他说的。所以他应该在我们要求他来的那天来。如果他继续推下去,我们会想出下一步该怎么做,”金辛格说。

特朗普没有回答他是否会出现在周五发给汤普森的14页备忘录中,他在备忘录中继续对该小组进行攻击,并继续对总统竞选进行虚假陈述。

他写道:“写这份备忘录是为了表达我们的愤怒、失望和抱怨,在许多人看来,这是一场猜字谜和政治迫害,花费了数亿美元。”

一些专家担心公众会看到特朗普在1月6日的委员会面前作证。

“在唐纳德·特朗普宣誓回答这个问题之前,不仅猪会飞,而且它们会绕过地球,”律师杰夫·罗宾斯说告诉ABC新闻直播主播林西·戴维斯。

如果他不合作呢?

如果特朗普拒绝合作,该委员会可能会要求众议院全体成员判他藐视法庭,并将此事提交司法部起诉。

前水门事件特别检察官尼克·阿克曼告诉美国广播公司新闻说:“如果他们不打算这样做,那基本上是象征性的。”。

当在听证会后被问及委员会计划如何处理任何最终的诉讼或对传票的蔑视时,汤普森主席不愿透露。

在投票以藐视法庭罪起诉四人后,众议院已将四人移交司法部——前特朗普白宫办公厅主任马克·梅多斯、特朗普前社交媒体总监丹·斯卡维诺、前特朗普白宫贸易顾问彼得·纳瓦罗和前政治顾问史蒂夫·班农。DOJ拒绝对梅多斯和斯卡维诺提出指控。班农因藐视1月6日委员会的传票而在7月被判有罪。纳瓦罗还被指控藐视国会,定于下月受审。

如果委员会将传票告上法庭,特朗普也可能试图通过对抗传票来拖延时间,就像他多年来面对其他调查和记录请求时所做的那样。

“传票提出了无数的法律和分权问题,包括国会委员会是否可以迫使总统出庭,以及试图在法庭上执行传票的程序障碍,此前的法院裁决对此提出了严重质疑,”众议院前法律顾问斯坦利·布兰德(Stanley Brand)告诉美国广播公司新闻,他代表了1月6日的一些证人,包括斯卡维诺。

“鉴于诉讼此类传票的大量延迟,还有一个时间问题,”布兰德说,他指的是国会试图传唤前白宫法律顾问唐·麦克加恩的证词。该案件在法庭上持续了近两年,最终以麦克甘自愿同意作证而告终。

布兰德说,这个问题,如果诉讼,可能需要同样长的时间。

共和党人,如果他们在这个中期选举周期赢回众议院的控制权预期的预计将放弃1月6日的调查,转而关注其他问题。共和党高层已经承诺对拜登和他的儿子亨特·拜登进行调查。

“时间不在他们一边,”阿克曼说,“考虑到现在是10月中旬,1月1日将有一个新的国会,不能保证它将由民主党控制。”

With Trump subpoena likely this week, what's next for the Jan. 6 committee?

In a dramatic end to what might be its last public hearing, the Jan. 6 committee took the historic step tovote to subpoenaDonald Trump.

The subpoena will likely be formally issued this week.

On Thursday, all nine members of the panel approved the resolution to compel the former president to testify about the Capitol attack, which the committee argues was the violent culmination of Trump's many efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

"He must be accountable," chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., said before the vote. "He is required to answer for his actions."

There's been discussion among committee members and staff for months about whether they would want Trump to testify in a live setting. There's no doubt they want him to testify under oath, as committee members made clear in the hearing.

Some members are hesitant to give Trump a live stage, while others view it as beneficial to their investigation as they would get to question him under oath. And there appears to be more of an openness among committee members to have him appear live.

Trump has told advisers he'd welcome a live appearance, according to sources familiar with his thinking, but has yet to say publicly whether he'll cooperate.

The committee would need to negotiate with Trump if he were to offer to testify live in response to the panel's subpoena, Rep. Adam Kinzinger said Sunday.

"I think that's going to be a negotiation," Kinzinger, R-Ill., a member of the committee,told ABC "This Week" anchor George Stephanopoulos. "I'll only address that when we know for sure whether or not the president has tried to push to come in and talk to us live."

"He's made it clear he has nothing to hide, [that's] what he said. So he should come in on the day we asked him to come in. If he pushes off beyond that, we'll figure out what to do next," Kinzinger said.

Trump did not answer whether he would appear in a 14-page memo sent to Thompson Friday, in which he continued his attacks on the panel and continued to make false claims about the presidential race.

"This memo is being written to express our anger, disappointment, and complaint that with all of the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on what many consider to be a Charade and Witch Hunt," he wrote.

Some experts are wary the public will ever see Trump testify before the Jan. 6 committee.

"Before Donald Trump comes to answer questions about this under oath not only will pigs fly but they will circumvent the globe," attorney Jeff Robinstold ABC News Liveanchor Linsey Davis.

What if he doesn't cooperate?

If Trump refuses to cooperate, the committee could move to have the full House hold him in contempt and refer the matter to the Justice Department for prosecution.

"If they're not going to do that, then it is essentially symbolic," Nick Akerman, a former Watergate special prosecutor, told ABC News.

Chairman Thompson wouldn't say when asked after the hearing how the committee planned to handle any eventual litigation or defiance of their subpoena.

The House has referred four people to the Justice Department after votes to hold them in contempt -- former Trump White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, Trump's former social media director Dan Scavino, former Trump White House trade adviser Peter Navarro and form political adviser Steve Bannon. DOJ declined to press charges against Meadows and Scavino. Bannon was found guilty in July for defying the Jan. 6 committee subpoena. Navarro was also indicted on contempt of Congress charges and is scheduled to go to trial next month.

Trump could also attempt to run out the clock by fighting the subpoena if the committee took it to court, as he's done with other investigations and records requests he's faced over the years.

"There are myriad legal and separation of powers issues raised by the subpoena, including whether a congressional committee can compel the president to appear as well as the procedural hurdles in attempting to enforce a subpoena in court which previous court decisions have cast serious doubt upon," Stanley Brand, a former counsel to the House of Representatives who has represented some of the Jan. 6 witnesses, including Scavino, told ABC News.

"There is also a question of timing given the substantial delays in litigating such a subpoena," Brand said, pointing to congressional efforts to subpoena testimony from former White House counsel Don McGahn. The case stretched out in court for nearly two years, and ended with a voluntary agreement by McGahn to testify.

Brand said this issue, if litigated, could take just as long.

Republicans, if they win back control of the House this midterm election cycleas expected, are expected to drop the Jan. 6 investigation and turn to other matters. Top Republicans have already promised investigations into Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.

"Time is not on their side," Akerman said, "considering it's mid-October and there's going to be a new Congress coming in Jan. 1, and there's no guarantee it's going to be controlled by the Democrats."

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