周三,在监督委员会就AR-15制造商在枪支暴力流行中的作用举行听证会之前,委员会主席众议员卡罗琳·马洛尼(Carolyn Maloney)与美国广播公司新闻(ABC News)坐下来讨论了背景。
一个月后乔·拜登总统签署了两党枪支改革协议成为法律,有针对性的红旗法律和扩大背景调查,众议院民主党人正在制定更多的枪支改革立法。
马洛尼在接受美国广播公司新闻采访时谈到了针对半自动武器销售的新立法,参议院通过额外立法的可能性以及她对周三听证会的希望。
GMA3:女议员,谢谢你回到节目中来。那么告诉我,这项禁止半自动武器的新立法,是否意味着要做最初两党枪支立法没有做的事情?
众议员卡罗琳·马洛尼:嗯,我们需要继续通过历史性的枪支改革立法的工作。我本周的听证会应该是一个警钟,让国会采取行动,让这些枪支制造商对他们制造的杀害无辜美国人的致命武器负责。
我们期望通过一项禁止攻击性武器的法案。我们在1994年这样做了。十年后它日落了。但在那段时间里,枪支死亡人数下降了。因此,这是一项重要的立法。相信我,TJ,如果枪让我们更安全,我们将是世界上最安全的国家。我们离它还远着呢。我们是最危险的。
GMA3:再一次,我们经常听到的统计数据显示,我们国家拥有的枪支比我们国家实际拥有的人口还要多。但是,这项立法还有什么机会呢?你现在有选票吗,即使是在众议院?因为即使它在众议院获得通过,我想大多数人都会同意它在参议院没有机会。
马洛尼:嗯,我们会让它通过众议院。我相信我们在众议院有足够的票数。参议院是一个挑战,但我们需要进行投票,让人们对美国公众负责,美国公众已经受够了学校、犹太教堂、教堂和社区的大规模枪击事件。必须让这些危险的枪支远离街道。首选武器是AR-15突击武器。
我们还将通过立法,结束枪支制造商制造致命武器的豁免权,这些武器正在杀害如此多的无辜者。
GMA3:女议员,你怎么看?你说你不确定你是否有选票。你认为你会把它们放在房子里。但即使是在上周与克里斯·墨菲参议员交谈时,我问他,下一步在哪里?下一部枪支立法正在进行什么样的谈判?他只是说,“嘿,我们刚刚完成了这个。让我们——给我们一分钟来实现这一点”,别无他求。即使对于在这个问题上如此热情的他来说,他也认为我们需要尝试一下。那么为什么这么快呢?你认为现在有需要利用的势头吗?
马洛尼:在布法罗和乌瓦尔迪无辜谋杀了如此多的学童之后,他们被扣留了——我们学校的大规模枪击事件比世界上任何地方都多。更多的人死于枪支暴力,每年大约有4万人,我们需要采取措施。我们需要让人们负起责任。我们需要像你们今天一样继续关注它,并通过立法,使它对我们的公民更加安全。
其他国家没有这个挑战。只有美国。通常他们会进行大规模枪击,然后通过枪支安全法,就这样。但是我们有一次又一次的大规模枪击事件。我们知道该做什么,不像许多挑战我们没有答案。我们知道枪支安全法很重要,我们需要通过它。所以我们需要继续努力。
GMA3:议员女士,我知道听证会就在明天。你邀请了这些枪支制造商,这些公司的负责人来。第一个问题,你认为会有多少人参加?你预计那里会有多少首席执行官和枪支制造商、高管?让一个枪支制造商为一把枪负责是什么样子的?是的,他们制造它们,但是他们不卖也不使用它们。那么,你认为他们的责任在哪里,他们需要在哪里做得更好?
马洛尼:嗯,我想说我们邀请了三个制造商,首席执行官,两个已经接受了。一是回避我们,不回应我们索取文件的要求。我们打算最终以某种形式追究他们的责任。
但是对于你的问题,大部分行业对自己的产品都是有责任的。我们对我们的汽车负有责任。每次有车祸,我们都会研究。我们应该用枪做同样的事情。我们应该对枪支负责。它们比汽车危险得多。
然后是制药业,他们会记录他们的药物导致了多少问题。我们应该用枪做同样的事情。有办法让他们承担责任。敬请关注。你将从我们本周末的听证会中听到更多信息。我们正在努力制定更多的立法,希望这些立法能够出台,让美国对我们的公民更加安全。
GMA3:我能问一下,你在他们的营销中,在他们制造的武器类型中发现了什么吗?你愿意看到他们削减这些武器的产量吗?我猜,你想看他们做什么?
马宏升:嗯,他们的营销是可怕的。他们正在向年轻人推销。他们正在吃莱佛士。他们有各种各样的广告来吸引人们利用他们的情绪和不安全感。他们的营销是绝对可怕的。他们需要被追究责任,但他们没有。这是一个生产致命武器、杀害无辜人民的行业。我们需要采取措施追究他们的责任。
听证会上我会有更多信息。现在禁止了,但我一直喜欢和你聊天,T.J .,听证会后我们会有更多的信息。我们有一份即将出炉的报告。其中的信息在明天的听证会之前都是保密的。
Rep. Carolyn Maloney speaks on gun control efforts
In advance of an oversight committee hearing with AR-15 manufacturers on their role in the gun violence epidemic on Wednesday, committee chair Rep. Carolyn Maloney sat down with ABC News to discuss the context.
One month afterPresident Joe Biden signed bipartisan gun reforminto law, targeted red flag laws and expanded background checks, House Democrats are working on additional gun reform legislation.
Maloney spoke with ABC News about new legislation that would target the sale of semiautomatic weapons, the chances of getting additional legislation passed through the Senate and her hopes for the Wednesday hearing.
GMA3: Congresswoman, thank you for being back on the program. So tell me, is this new legislation to ban semiautomatic weapons, is this meant to do what the initial bipartisan gun legislation did not do?
REP. CAROLYN MALONEY: Well, we need to continue building on the work of passing historic gun reform legislation. And my hearing this week should be a wakeup call to action for Congress to act to hold these gun manufacturers accountable for the deadly weapons that they're manufacturing that are killing innocent Americans.
We expect to pass a bill banning assault weapons. We did this in 1994. It sunseted after ten years. But during that period, gun deaths went down. So, this is important legislation. Believe me, T.J., if guns made us safer, we'd be the safest nation on Earth. We are far from it. We're the most dangerous.
GMA3: As again, that statistic we always hear we have more guns in this country than we actually do people in the country. But still, what chance does this legislation have? And do you have the votes right now, even in the House? Because even if it gets past the House, I think most would agree it has no chance in the Senate.
MALONEY: Well, we will get it through the House. I believe we have the votes in the House. The Senate is a challenge, but we need to take a vote and hold people accountable with the American public that has had it with these mass shootings in schools and in our synagogues and churches, our neighborhoods. It's got to get these dangerous guns off the street. And the weapon of choice is the AR-15 assault weapon.
We are also passing legislation that will end the immunity that gun manufacturers have for manufacturing deadly weapons that are killing so many innocent people.
GMA3: Congresswoman, what do you think? You said you're not sure if you have the votes yet. You think you'll have them in the House. But even talking to Sen. Chris Murphy last week and I asked him, I said, where is the next step? What negotiations are going on for the possible next piece of gun legislation? And he just said, "hey, we just got this one done. Just let us– give us a minute to implement this one" and nothing else, really. Even for him who's been so passionate on this issue, he thought we needed to just give it a beat. So why so quickly? You think there is momentum right now that needs to be taken advantage of?
MALONEY: After Buffalo and Uvalde, the innocent murders of so many schoolchildren, they are hold – we have more mass shootings in schools than any place in the world. More people die, roughly 40,000 a year from gun violence, and we need to take steps. We need to hold people accountable. And we need to continue putting a focus on it like you are today and passing legislation that will make it safer for our citizens.
Other countries don't have this challenge. Only America. Usually they have a mass shooting and they pass gun safety laws and that's it. But we have mass shooting after mass shooting. And we know what to do, unlike so many challenges where we don't have the answer. We know gun safety laws are important and what they are and that we need to pass them. So we need to keep trying.
GMA3: And, Congresswoman, I know the hearing is tomorrow. You invited these gun manufacturers, the head of these companies to come. First question, how well-attended do you think it's going to be? How many CEOs and gun manufacturers, the executives do you expect to have there? And what does it look like to hold a gun maker accountable for a gun? Yes, they make them, but then they don't sell them or use them. So where do you see their accountability and where do they need to be doing better?
MALONEY: Well, I would say we have invited three manufacturers, CEOs, two have accepted. One is dodging us and not responding to our requests for documents. And we intend to hold them accountable eventually in some form.
But to your question, most industries have a responsibility for their products. We have liability on our cars. Every time there's a car wreck, we study it. We should do the same thing with guns. We should have liability on guns. They're far more dangerous than cars.
And then the drug industry, they keep a record of how much problems result from their drugs. We should be doing the same thing with guns. There are ways to hold them accountable. Stay tuned. You'll hear more information from our hearing this weekend. And we are working on additional legislation that will be coming forward hopefully that will make America safer for our citizens.
GMA3: And can I ask, do you find something in their marketing, in something of the type of weapon they're making? Would you like to see them cut back on how many of these weapons they make? I guess, what would you like to see them do?
MALONEY: Well, their marketing is horrendous. They are marketing to young people. They are having raffles. They have all kinds of ads to entice people to play on their emotions and their insecurities. Their marketing is absolutely horrendous. They need to be held accountable and they have not. It is an industry that is producing deadly weapons that are killing innocent people. And we need to take steps to hold them accountable.
I'll have more information at the hearing. It's embargoed now, but I always love talking to you, T.J., and we'll have more information after the hearing. We have a report that will be coming out. And the information in it is at this point embargoed until the hearing tomorrow.