民主党参议员克里斯·墨菲(Chris Murphy)周二在白宫会见了总统乔·拜登(Joe Biden),亲自向他介绍了参议院枪支改革谈判的最新情况,立法者试图在本周达成一项协议,他事先向美国广播公司(ABC)的“The View”概述了这项协议。
据白宫称,他们的会面持续了大约40分钟。
康涅狄格州的墨菲在离开白宫时对记者说,他一再回避是谁要求会面的问题,转而表示,他在整个过程中一直与白宫和拜登进行会谈,以让他们了解会谈的最新情况,他们认为进行对话将是“互利的”。
墨菲告诉“观点”的共同主持人,谈判者希望在本周末之前宣布一个框架,允许一揽子方案在此后进行投票,并补充说,这次立法者的压力是前所未有的,选民们“以我从未见过的速度”接触办公室。
这位康涅狄格州民主党人表示,他和谈判中的共和党领袖、得克萨斯州共和党参议员约翰·科宁(R-Texas)周一进行了会谈,会谈“一直持续到昨晚凌晨”,并表示越来越多的共和党人支持这些努力。
“虽然我们的观点非常不同,但我们都同意,我们不愿意做任何损害人民第二修正案权利的事情。墨菲说:“我们的重点是不让武器落入危险分子之手。”。“我们现在无法就彻底禁止攻击性武器等问题达成一致,但我们可以通过确保只有守法公民才能获得真正强大的枪支来拯救生命。”
在上周的黄金时段演讲中,拜登呼吁禁止攻击性武器,如果没有,他说,那么将购买攻击性武器的年龄从18岁提高到21岁。相反,立法者正在考虑一些措施,如扩大背景调查,鼓励州和地方制定红旗法,增加学校安全和心理健康项目的资金。
“我以前在这些谈判中失败过很多次,所以我对我们的机会保持清醒的头脑,但通常随着时间的推移,在这些灾难性的大规模枪击事件之后,势头会消退。墨菲补充道:“这一次似乎发生了相反的情况。“每天都有更多的共和党人想要帮助我们获得产品。”
墨菲说,大多数共和党人意识到采取行动的“公众紧迫性”。
“但我也认为共和党人明白这是一种很好的政治——很难回到他们的选区,说他们拒绝了一个非常合理的提议,即收紧我们国家完全符合第二修正案的枪支法律,”他补充说。
然而,如果没有10个参议院共和党人的支持,以获得克服阻挠议事所需的60票,国会可能很快进入第三个十年,而没有通过重大的枪支安全改革。
当被问及攻击性武器禁令或提高购买攻击性武器年龄的前景时,墨菲说,“我不会让完美成为好的敌人。”
墨菲说:“现在,我们没有10个共和党人投票禁止这些AR-15突击式武器。”“当然,我支持禁止攻击性武器。我支持普遍背景调查,但我不认为我们可以袖手旁观,让我们的政治阻止我们找到妥协。”
“这不会是我想要的一切。但我认为这会给这个国家的父母和孩子一种感觉,我们正在认真对待这场流行病,我们愿意取
“参议员舒默已经明确表示,如果我们需要一些额外的时间来处理细节,我们会得到它,”他补充说。
在整个谈判过程中,白宫新闻秘书郭佳欣·让-皮埃尔一直处于守势,因为有人质疑拜登是否应该在谈判中发挥更大的作用。
她认为拜登已经参与了几十年,并给参议员们“一点空间”去工作。她说,自谈判开始以来,墨菲每天都与白宫通话,但那可以是在工作人员层面,而不是直接与拜登通话。
Sen. Chris Murphy gives Biden update on Senate gun reform talks
Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy met with President Joe Biden at the White House on Tuesday to personally update him on gun reform talks in the Senate as lawmakers try to reach a deal this week, which he outlined to ABC's "The View" beforehand.
Their meeting lasted about 40 minutes, according to the White House.
Speaking with reporters as he was leaving the White House, Murphy, D-Conn., repeatedly dodged the question of who asked for the meeting, pivoting to say he has been in talks with the White House and Biden throughout the process to keep them updated on the talks, and they thought it would be "mutually beneficial" to have a conversation.
Murphy told the co-hosts of "The View" that negotiators hope to announce a framework by the end of the week, allowing a package to advance for votes thereafter, adding that the pressure on lawmakers, this time, feels unprecedented with constituents reaching out to offices "at a rate that I've never seen before."
The Connecticut Democrat said that he and Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, the lead Republican in the negotiations, were part of talks Monday "that went into the wee hours of last night" and said an increasing number of Republicans are supporting the efforts.
"While we are very different in our views, we do both agree that we are not willing to do anything that compromises people's Second Amendment rights. We are focusing on keeping weapons out of the hands of dangerous people," Murphy said. "We can't find agreement right now on an issue like an outright ban on assault weapons, but we can find an agreement that saves lives around making sure that only law-abiding citizens get access to really powerful firearms."
In a prime-time address last week, Biden called for an assault weapons ban, and if not, he said, then to raise the age to buy assault weapons from 18 to 21. Instead, lawmakers are considering measures like expanded background checks, incentives for states and localities to institute red flag laws, and increased funding for school security and mental health programs.
"I've failed so many times before in these talks that I'm sober-minded about our chances, but you normally as time goes on after one of these cataclysmic mass shootings the momentum fades. The opposite seems to be happening this time," Murphy added. "There are more Republicans every single day, who want to help us get to a product."
Murphy said most Republicans realize there's a "public urgency" to act.
"But I also think Republicans understand that this is good politics -- that it's going to be really hard to go back to their constituencies and say that they rejected a pretty reasonable offer to tighten up our nation's firearms laws that are completely compliant with the Second Amendment," he added.
However, without the support of 10 Senate Republicans to gain the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster, Congress could soon enter its third decade without having passed major gun safety reforms.
Pressed on the prospect of an assault weapons ban or raising the age to buy assault weapons, Murphy said, "I'm not going to let the perfect be the enemy of the good."
"Right now, we don't have 10 Republican votes to ban these AR-15 assault-style weapons," Murphy said. "Of course, I support banning assault weapons. I support universal background checks, but I don't think that we can stand by and let our politics stop us from finding a compromise."
"It won't be everything I want. But I think it'll give parents and kids in this country, a sense that we are taking seriously this epidemic and that we're willing to make progress," he added.
Murphy told White House reporters after meeting with Biden that he think thinks that they can get something done "in the next few days."
Senator Chris Murphy speaks during the opening of the Gun Violence Memorial on National Mall in Washington, D.C., June 7, 2022.
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Throughout negotiations, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre has been on the defensive as some have questioned whether Biden should be taking a larger role in talks.
She has argued Biden has been involved for decades and is giving senators "a little space" to work. Murphy has spoken with the White House every single day since the negotiations began, she said, but that can be on the staff level, not directly with Biden.