凯莉安妮·康威，前竞选经理唐纳德·特朗普周二，她与《观点》的共同主持人坐在一起，讨论她的新回忆录，她丈夫对当时的攻击特朗普总统她说与前总统共度的时光让她心碎。

当特朗普赢得2016年总统大选时选举康威曾担任特朗普的竞选经理，并将成为他服务时间最长的助手之一，成为美国第一位成功竞选总统的女性。

虽然她帮助特朗普在2016年取得胜利，但康威没有参加他的2020年竞选。她当时宣布，她将于2020年8月离开白宫，花更多时间陪伴家人。

当特朗普在2020年11月输掉总统大选时，他开始提出他的理论，即所谓的“弥天大谎”一场被盗的总统选举。康威不同意这个理论。

康威在她的新回忆录《事情是这样的》中写道，对特朗普来说，在2020年输掉总统大选比在2016年获胜更令人震惊。当被问及她是否同意特朗普输掉了普选和选举人票，并与拜登总统进行了自由公平的选举时，康威说:“很明显，乔·拜登是总统。我不敢相信我们还在恭敬地谈论这个。”

康威告诉《观点报》，她“从未”就2020年总统大选的结果对前总统特朗普撒谎。“我是最早告诉唐纳德·特朗普他不够格的人。这伤了我的心，我希望他再次当选，”她说。

“我只希望负责他2020年竞选的人，带着他们浪费的14亿美元，彻底赢得了压倒性的胜利，”她继续说。“他应该赢得巨大的胜利，他取得了所有这些成就。”

在“观点”节目中，康威说，“特朗普总统在竞选中一次又一次地被人们告知，‘你会以压倒性优势获胜’。”"

随着特朗普寻求再次竞选总统的传言四起，康威告诉“观点”，特朗普“希望在2024年竞选”，因为他认为他有“未竟的事业”，并看到“拜登没有做好工作。”

艾丽莎·法拉·格里芬(Alyssa Farah Griffin)是白宫战略沟通主任，也是2020年特朗普政府的总统助理，她是周二“The View”的嘉宾共同主持人。她于2020年12月4日辞职，并在1月6日国会大厦袭击事件后发表了讲话。

这两名特朗普的前工作人员在“观点”桌子上交换了激烈的言辞。

格里芬问道，“你还怎么为(特朗普)辩护?在他试图推翻我们的民主后，你还认为他能成为一个好总统吗?”

“我比你早离开三个月，因为我有四个孩子。我说，‘少点戏剧性，多点妈妈’，我就是这么做的，”康威回应道。“我认为你在有问题的选举后呆了整整一个月。”

格里芬很快反驳道:“我想帮助我的初级员工找到工作。之后我呆了三个星期。”

“我认为人们应该知道这一点，”康威说。“因为你变了之后我就没见过你了。”

“要明确的是，我没有改变，”格里芬说。

“艾丽莎，我不想争论，”康威说。“你每天都可以在这里说话，我是作为客人来的。”

艾丽莎告诉康威和观众，“我向宪法宣誓，不是向唐纳德·特朗普宣誓。”

在康威担任特朗普顾问期间，她的丈夫乔治·康威(George Conway)支持她接受这份工作，并在推特上直言不讳地批评总统。凯莉安妮·康威在她的回忆录中写道，她和丈夫相处了近25年，“我丈夫为了推特抛弃了我。”

“一夜又一夜，我在忙碌了一天后回到家，”她在回忆录中写道。“当我在洗碗、遛狗、洗衣服、处理青春期的戏剧和创伤时，乔治会躲在他的家庭办公室里，离我只有几步之遥，密谋对付我和我的老板。”

康威在回忆录的后记中写道，“民主将会存在。美国将会幸存。乔治和我可能活不下去。”

在“观点”节目中，康威明确表示，“乔治并不效忠唐纳德·特朗普或任何政治意识形态。誓言是要我去爱，尊重和珍惜。如果乔治没有说‘你在努力，我会更多地帮助孩子和做家务’，我也不可能成为唐纳德·特朗普的竞选经理，达到我现在的水平...这家伙真的能和你一起赢。去试试吧。"

共同主持人乔·贝哈指出，康威的丈夫“转向”她。康威说，她丈夫反特朗普立场的“公共性质”是“如此不和谐”，因为她欣赏乔治的价值观，但他“公开夸夸其谈”。

“我觉得我无法与推特竞争，我为什么要竞争呢?我为什么要和Twitter竞争?”她甚至不性感，她甚至没有个性，”康威谈到她丈夫抨击特朗普的许多推特时说我觉得我们的生活中还有另一个女人。"

“乔治攻击特朗普，这没什么，只是主流媒体表现出了这种民间英雄综合症，”她补充道。

乔治不是唯一一个在社交媒体上批评特朗普的康威。康威的女儿克劳迪娅也成为了特朗普的批评者，她经常在社交媒体上分享关于她母亲和父亲的帖子。她的母亲讲述了她的女儿在她的帖子后受到的待遇。

“克劳迪娅做了很多青少年都会做的事情:挑战权威、爸爸妈妈、发布TikToks和上Twitter，”康威谈到她的女儿时说。“我不喜欢也永远不会原谅或忘记的是一群成年人直接给我15岁的女儿发信息，甚至没有试图联系容易联系到的父母。”

“简直令人发指。你不能让一个没有父母的15岁孩子出现在你的观众中。她不能打耳洞，去看R级电影，开车，投票，”她继续说道。

“人们刚刚联系了我的女儿。我绝不会联系你的孩子。顺便问一下，如果是一个35岁的男人在凌晨1点联系克劳迪娅，许诺她的名誉，财富，关注，我们会感觉好点吗?但我为她和她的三个兄弟姐妹感到骄傲。他们有韧性，他们能吃苦耐劳，他们比这些成年人更有品位、尊严、判断力和判断力。”

Kellyanne Conway says she 'never' lied to Trump about outcome of 2020 election

Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager toDonald Trump, sat down with “The View” co-hosts on Tuesday to discuss her new memoir, her husband’s attacks on then-President Trumpand a moment with the former president that she says left her heartbroken.

When Trump won the 2016 presidentialelection, Conway, who served as Trump’s campaign manager and would become one of his longest-serving aides, became the first woman to successfully run a presidential campaign in America.

While she helped lead Trump to victory in 2016, Conway didn't take on his 2020 campaign. She left her White House role in August 2020 to spend more time with her family, she announced at the time.

When Trump lost the presidential election in November 2020, he began offering his theory, theso-called "big lie,"of a stolen presidential election. It is a theory Conway does not subscribe to.

Conway, in her new memoir “Here’s the Deal,” writes that losing the presidential election in 2020 was more shocking to Trump than winning it in 2016. When asked if she agrees that Trump lost both the popular vote, the electoral vote and had a free and fair election with President Biden, Conway said, "It's pretty obvious that Joe Biden is the president. I can’t believe we’re still talking about this, respectfully."

Conway told "The View" that she "never" lied to former President Trump about the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. "I'm the closest person to Donald Trump to tell him the earliest that he came up short. It broke my heart, I wanted him to get reelected," she said.

"I only wish that the people who were in charge of his 2020 campaign, with the $1.4 billion that they wasted, had won outright and overwhelmingly," she continued. "He should have won huge, he had all these accomplishments."

On "The View," Conway said that "President Trump was told again and again by people in his campaign, 'You’re going to win in a landslide.'"

With rumors swirling that Trump is looking to run for president again, Conway told "The View" that Trump "would like to run in 2024" because he believes he has "unfinished business" and sees that "Biden is not doing a great job."

Alyssa Farah Griffin, who was the White House director of strategic communications and assistant to the president in the Trump administration in 2020, was a guest co-host on "The View" Tuesday. She resigned from her position on Dec. 4, 2020, and spoke out after the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.

The two former Trump staffers exchanged strong words at "The View" table.

Griffin asked, "How do you still defend [Trump]? Do you still think he could be a good president after he tried to overturn our democracy?"

"I left three months before you did for my children, I have four of them. And I said, 'Less drama more mama,' and that's exactly what I did," Conway responded. "I think you stayed a whole month after the election that you were having a problem with."

Griffin quickly retorted, "I wanted to help my junior staff get jobs. I stayed for three weeks after."

"I think people should know that," Conway said. "Because I haven’t seen you since you’ve changed."

"Alyssa, I don’t want to argue," Conway said. "You get to talk here every day, I’m here as a guest."

Alyssa told Conway and the audience, "I swore an oath to the Constitution, not to Donald Trump."

During Conway's time as a counselor to Trump, her husband, George Conway, who supported her taking the job, was an outspoken critic of the president on Twitter. In her tell-all memoir, Kellyanne Conway wrote about her husband of nearly 25 years, "My husband abandoned me for Twitter."

"Night after night, I would come home from a busy day at work," she wrote in her memoir. "While I was minding dishes, dogs, laundry, managing adolescent dramas and traumas, George would be just steps away from me, tucked away in his home office, plotting against my boss and me."In the afterword of her memoir, Conway wrote, "Democracy will survive. America will survive. George and I might not survive."

On "The View," Conway made it clear that "George does not owe fealty or loyalty to Donald Trump or any political ideology. The vows were to me to love, honor and cherish. And I would not have been able to be Donald Trump's campaign manager to the level I was had George not said, ‘You are taking your shot and I will help more with the kids and around the house ... This guy can actually win with you. Go take your shot.’"

Co-host Joy Behar noted that Conway's husband "turned" on her. Conway said that "the public nature" of her husband's anti-Trump position was "so jarring" because of the values about George she appreciates, but he "became publicly bombastic."

"I felt I couldn't compete with the tweet, and why would I? Why would I compete with Twitter?" She's not even hot, she doesn't even have a personality," Conway said of her husband's many tweets bashing Trump. "I felt like there was another woman in our life."

"George turned on Trump, which would be OK, except it took on this whole folk hero syndrome with the mainstream media," she added.

George wasn't the only Conway who took to social media to criticize Trump. Conway's daughter Claudia, who had also become a critic of Trump, shared frequent posts about her mother and father on social media. Her mother spoke out about how her daughter was treated following her posts.

"Claudia was doing what a lot of teenagers do: pushing back on authority, mom and dad, posting TikToks and getting on Twitter," Conway said of her daughter. "What I don't appreciate and will never forgive or forget are a bunch of adults direct messaging my 15-year-old daughter without even trying to reach easy-to-reach parents."

"It is outrageous. You can’t have a 15-year-old in your audience without a parent. She can’t get her ears pierced, go to an R-rated movie, drive, vote," she continued.

"People just contacting my daughter. I would never contact your children. By the way, are we supposed to feel better if it were a 35-year-old man contacting Claudia at 1:00 a.m. and promising her fame, fortune, attention? But I’m so proud of her and her three siblings. They are resilient, they are hardy, they have more class, dignity, discretion and judgment in their pinkies than a lot of these adults."