冠状病毒缓解会更容易通过如果真的是两党合作俄亥俄州参议员罗布·波特曼周日在美国广播公司的“本周”节目中说,他认为民主党人应该削减冠状病毒救助法案,使其更有针对性,并获得共和党人的更多支持。
“对此有一个简单的答案,让我们两党合作,”波特曼告诉美国广播公司首席新闻主播乔治·斯特凡诺普洛斯。
“我们可以继续合作,在这种情况下,很容易获得共和党对COVID救助计划的支持,”他补充说。
据《纽约时报》报道,共和党选民支持这一方案——40%。
“这当然是两党合作的一个定义,”斯特凡诺普洛斯强调。
波特曼说,他相信人们支持给自己额外的救济金,但法案中有些条款与此无关冠状病毒宽慰。
“是的,如果——你知道——支票出现在人们的家里,这将会很受欢迎,但这并不意味着这是正确的法案。这是1.9万亿美元——其中一半以上甚至不会在这个日历年支出,”波特曼回应道。
“这里有很多事情与COVID救济无关,”他说。“只是没有针对性。我们有一个共和党的选择。如你所知,我们一直在与总统和他的人民谈论此事,但没有得到回应,这更有针对性,更注重真实医疗保健服务和紧迫的经济问题,这是我们应该做的。"
波特曼指出了特朗普政府期间的共和党一揽子计划,并告诉斯特凡诺普洛斯,很明显,共和党将支持额外的救济。该党的主要成员本周末在佛罗里达州奥兰多参加保守政治行动会议,周六,加州众议员德文·努内斯(Devin Nunes)批评了民主党的纾困方案。
“他们正在使用COVID——我们刚刚在45天前通过了一项由唐纳德·特朗普签署成为法律的COVID法案——他们甚至还没有花光所有的钱,”努恩斯说。
波特曼说,虽然前总统唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)今年仍是CPAC的焦点人物,但根据民意调查,他在党内仍然很受欢迎,政策才是选民真正从立法者那里寻求的。
“我确实认为这些政策更受欢迎,这就是为什么共和党在2020年表现出色,而不是在总统一级,”他说。“那是我们应该关注的地方。”
斯特凡诺普洛斯在党内推动波特曼扮演特朗普的角色。
“但当特朗普总统领先时,你能谈谈吗?”他问道。
“嗯,有时候会让事情变得更难。但是听着,我认为他今天有机会谈论他的成就,而不是谈论个性...谈论你做了什么,”参议员说,指的是特朗普周日下午在CPAC的预期演讲。
在“本周”节目中,波特曼还针对乔·拜登总统对沙特阿拉伯的立场,以及他在本周晚些时候宣布的决定,即不进一步惩罚沙特王储穆罕默德·本·萨尔曼,沙特国王萨尔曼的儿子和沙特王位继承人,此前美国情报界的一份非机密报告确定,他批准了一项抓捕或杀害记者贾迈勒·哈肖吉的行动。
波特曼说:“但你必须相信他,他加大了制裁力度,并加大了对那些直接责任人的旅行禁令。”。“我确实认为应该有一些额外的东西来关注他。也可能是制裁或旅行禁令,就像他们对那些直接参与杀害哈肖吉的人所做的那样。”
“听着,我知道这很艰难,因为沙特现在正在对伊朗进行反击。这非常重要,”他补充道。“因此,这是一个微妙的领域,正如我们之前所说,竞选容易,但治理更难。但我觉得应该有和皇太子直接相关的东西。”
弗雷德·希亚特是哈肖吉的朋友,也是哈肖吉工作的《华盛顿邮报》的社论版编辑,他在周日的另一次采访中告诉斯特凡诺普洛斯,他认为拜登政府在惩罚王储方面也做得不够。
“我认为问题是,你能做些什么,让MBS或另一个像那样的潜在屠夫下次考虑做这样一件令人发指的罪行时,会停下来,认为这不值得做,”希亚特说,他指的是王储的首字母。“到目前为止,(拜登)的计算是,你知道,他付出了代价,上周报告的发布是一个很好的进步。但这不是一个足够的价格。而且,你知道,拜登自己的财政部长珍妮特·耶伦上周说,那些对贾马尔·哈肖吉应受谴责的谋杀负有责任的人必须被追究责任。我们现在知道,最有责任的人是王储——他还没有被追究责任。”
A bipartisan coronavirus relief bill would be easier to pass: GOP Sen. Rob Portman
Coronavirusrelief would be easier to passif it were truly bipartisan, Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, said Sunday on ABC's "This Week," adding that he thinks Democrats should trim the coronavirus relief bill to make it more targeted -- and to garner more support from Republicans.
"There's an easy answer to this, let's make it bipartisan," Portman told ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos.
"We can continue to work together and in this case, it would be very easy to get Republican support for a COVID relief package," he added.
According to the New York Times, there is Republican voter support for this package -- 40%.
"That is certainly one definition of bipartisanship," Stephanopoulos pressed.
Portman said he believes people support additional relief money for themselves, but that there are items in the bill which aren't relevant tocoronavirusrelief.
"Yeah, if -- you know -- checks are coming out to people's homes that's going to be popular, but that doesn't mean that this is the right bill. It's $1.9 trillion -- more than half of it won't even be spent in this calendar year," Portman responded.
"There are a number of things in here that have nothing to do with COVID relief," he said. "It's just not targeted. We have a Republican alternative. As you know, we've been talking with the president and his people about it, but got no response, which is much more targeted and focused on the realhealth careand economic matters that are urgent and that's what we ought to do."
Portman pointed to Republican packages during the Trump administration, and told Stephanopoulos that it was clear that the GOP would be in favor of additional relief. Prominent members of the party, were in Orlando, Florida, this weekend for the Conservative Political Action Conference, and on Saturday, Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., criticized the Democrats' relief package.
"They're using COVID -- we just passed a COVID bill 45 days ago that Donald Trump signed into law -- they haven't even spent all that money yet," Nunes said.
Portman said that while former President Donald Trump -- who remains a central focus of CPAC this year -- is still popular within the party, according to polling, policies are what voters are really looking for from its lawmakers.
"I do think the policies are what is even more popular and that's why Republicans did pretty well in 2020, other than at the presidential level," he said. "That's where we ought to focus."
Stephanopoulos pushed Portman on the role of Trump within the party.
"But can you talk about that when President Trump is out there in the lead?" he asked.
"Well, it sometimes makes it more difficult. But look, I think he has an opportunity today to talk about his accomplishments, instead of talking about personalities ... talk about what you did," the senator said, referring to Trump's anticipated speech at CPAC on Sunday afternoon.
On "This Week," Portman also took aim at President Joe Biden's stance on Saudi Arabia and his decision -- announced late this week -- not to further punish Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, Saudi King Salman's son and heir to the Saudi throne, after an unclassified report from the U.S. intelligence community determined that he approved an operation to capture or kill journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
"But you have to give him credit, he's increased sanctions and increased the travel bans on those individuals directly responsible," Portman said. "I do think there ought to be something additional that focuses on him. And it could be along the lines of sanctions or travel bans, just as they've done for those directly involved with the killing of Khashoggi."
"Look, I know this is tough, because Saudis are pushing back right now on Iran. That's very important," he added. "So it's a delicate area and as we said earlier, it's easy to campaign but harder to govern. But I think there should be something directly related to the crown prince."
Fred Hiatt, a friend of Khashoggi's and the editorial page editor at The Washington Post where Khashoggi worked, also told Stephanopoulos in a separate interview on Sunday that he did not think the Biden administration went far enough in punishing the crown prince, either.
"I think the question is, what can you do so that the next time MBS or another would-be butcher like that is thinking about doing a heinous crime like this, will stop and think it's not worth doing," Hiatt said, referring to the crown prince by his initials. "And so far, the calculation for (Biden) is, you know, he's paid a price and the release of the report last week was a good step forward. But it's not a sufficient price. And, you know, Biden's own Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen last week said that those responsible for the reprehensible murder of Jamal Khashoggi must be held accountable. We now know that the man most responsible is the crown prince -- and he hasn't yet been held accountable."